It was so magnificent, getting to be so small in a place. One of the strongest memories I have is the first time that we got to drive out into the desert into Wadi Rum, and you’re just surrounded by all of this tall, amazing rock. The way we filmed it was kind of split into two parts. I’m like, Is all of this a ruse? Is all of this mental strategy to learn the opponent? So, we’re over here just talking about climbs. I didn’t know if there was gonna be some sort of psychological component of it, like in Survivor. We didn’t know what it was gonna be like. I, along with everyone else, didn’t know the format of the competition. I remember coming into the first location and not knowing anybody. And what drew me to just apply was the worst thing that could happen was I don’t get picked, and the best thing that could happen was I get to go on a paid international climbing trip. It tested a group of climbers on different disciplines and terrains all across the world. I was a participant on HBO Max’s The Climb, a new climbing competition from Jason Momoa and Chris Sharma. I’m currently in Kentucky, and I was raised in Kentucky. I’m a transgender photographer, athlete, founder, and director of the Queer Climber’s Network, and now technically a pro climber. Whereas if I’m around people that I feel supported with, I can be more vulnerable and completely give myself to climbing. Sometimes I’ll be at the crag, and I’ll hear strangers having a conversation, and they may not be directly saying something transphobic or racist but the tone of the conversation may turn on that level of guard I have and then I can’t focus on climbing. It has been edited for length and clarity. Heading out the door? Read this article on the new Outside+ app available now on iOS devices for members!Ĭat Runner told his story to producer Stepfanie Aguilar for an episode of The Daily Rally podcast.
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